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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:37:40 +0700
Subject: RE: [HanoiLUG] Ph?ng vi?n b?o Tu?i Tr? mu?n b?n th?m v? H?i th?o
FOSS t?i Tp.HCM
Ch?o c?c anh trong c?ng ??ng ngu?n m?,
Em r?t c?m ?n c?c anh nhi?t t?nh c?ng t?c v? gi?p ?? em. Em xin v?o v?n ??
lu?n. Nh?n s? ki?n h?i th?o "th?c ??y ?ng d?ng v? ph?t tri?n ph?n m?m m?
ngu?n m?" do B? TTTT t? ch?c ng?y 22/9 t?i TP.HCM v?a qua, em l?m chuy?n ??
v? ph?n m?m t? do ngu?n m? cho b?o Tu?i Tr? cu?i tu?n. Chuy?n ?? c?a em s?
g?m b?i t?ng quan v? t?nh h?nh ?ng d?ng ph?n m?m t? do ngu?n m? t?i VI?t
Nam, b?i vi?t v? c?ng ??ng Vi?t Nam v? nh?ng n? l?c c?a c?ng ??ng v? m?t b?i
ph?ng v?n c? quan ch?c n?ng, c?c ? ki?n c?a chuy?n gia. Em xin n?u m?t s? ?
nh? c?c anh l?m r? gi?p em, trong qu? tr?nh trao ??i em xin ???c h?i th?m ?.
C?m nh?n c?a em ??i v?i h?i th?o v?a r?i l? n?i dung c?n h?i m? h?, v?n ch?
l? nh?ng v?n ?? ?? n?u trong c?c h?i th?o c?ch ??y v?i n?m v? m? ngu?n m? ?
VN ?ang r?t ?o u?t. Em c?m gi?c nh? c?c nh? ho?ch ??nh ch?nh s?ch CNTT kh?ng
m?n m? v?i ph?n m?m ngu?n m?, n?u kh?ng mu?n n?i l? h? anti ph?n m?m ngu?n
m?. Tuy v?y, b?o c?o c?a ph?a B? TTTT l?i cho ng??i ??c c?m gi?c r?ng ch?ng
ta ?? ??t ???c r?t nhi?u k?t qu? t?t v? r?t t?ch c?c ?ng d?ng ph?n m?m ngu?n
m? ? c?c c? quan nh? n??c, ??a ph??ng... Em kh?ng bi?t suy ngh? n?y c?a m?nh
c? sai kh?ng v? nh? c?c anh gi?p em c? c?i nh?n to?n c?nh v? t?nh h?nh ?ng
d?ng, ph?t tri?n m? ngu?n m? t?i VN, ??c bi?t ? g?c ?? ?ng d?ng trong th?c
t?, ph?n m?m ngu?n m? ?ang ph?t tri?n m?nh ? ph?n kh?c n?o?
Theo c?c anh th? c?ch tri?n khai c?a ch?ng ta (??c bi?t l? B? TTTT) hi?n nay
?? th?c ??y ph?n m?m ngu?n m? ph?t tri?n c? ?i ??ng ???ng kh?ng? Trong ch?nh
s?ch, ch?ng ta ?? l?m ???c g? v? c?n ph?i l?m g? ?? PMNM ph?t tri?n m?nh
h?n?
Ch?ng ta ?? c? h?n 10 n?m tri?n khai ?ng d?ng PMNM nh?ng v?i nh?ng g? ??t
???c h?m nay, ph?i ch?ng ch?ng ta ?? b? l? nhi?u c? h?i v? kho?ng c?ch c?a
ta v?i c?ng ??ng ngu?n m? th? gi?i ng?y c?ng xa?
C? ? ki?n cho r?ng ch?ng ta c?n m?t c? quan cao h?n c?p b? ?i?u ph?i vi?c
th?c ??y ph?t tri?n ph?n m?m ngu?n m? ?? tr?nh s? gi?m ch?n nhau c?a hai b?
KHCN v? TTTT v? s? d? c? s? gi?m ch?n n?y l? h?u qu? l?ch s? khi th?nh l?p
b? TTTT.
V?n ?? ph?t tri?n ph?n m?m ngu?n m? ? VN hi?n nay ?ang loay hoay trong b?i
to?n con g? v? qu? tr?ng: Tr??ng kh?ng ??o t?o n?n kh?ng c? nh?n l?c,kh?ng
c? nh?n l?c th? kh?ng c? s?n ph?m, kh?ng c? s?n ph?m th? kh?ng c? th?
tr??ng, kh?ng c? th? tr??ng th? doanh nghi?p kh?ng l?m, v? kh?ng c?n nh?n
l?c. V?n ?? n?y c? ??ng kh?ng? Xin c?c anh cho em ? ki?n v? gi?i ph?p kh?c
ph?c?
C?c anh c? th? gi?p em th?ng tin v? c?ng ??ng ? VN, nh?ng k?t qu? c?ng ??ng
?? l?m ???c?
Hi?n nay, t?m l? ng??i d?ng v? c? ng??i qu?n l? ??u cho r?ng, PMNM kh? d?ng,
PMNM l? s?n ph?m c?a nhi?u ng??i n?n t?nh b?o m?t kh?ng cao, s?n ph?m kh?ng
ho?n thi?n... n?n ng??i ta b?i x?ch ngu?n m?. L?m sao ?? m?i ng??i c? nh?n
th?c ??ng? C? ? ki?n cho r?ng, ??i v?i ng??i d?ng cu?i, h?y ??ng cho h? bi?t
h? ?ang d?ng m? ngu?n m? hay ??ng khi ??a h? s? d?ng. ? ki?n n?y ??ng kh?ng?
C? ? ki?n n?i r?ng Vi?t Nam ch?a c? ho?t ??ng ??ng g?p cho c?ng ??ng ph?n
m?m ngu?n m? th? gi?i? ? ki?n n?y ??ng hay sai?
H?ng Nhung
-----Original Message-----
From: Truong Anh. Tuan [mailto:tuanta at iwayvietnam.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:40 PM
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group
Cc: hongnhung at tuoitre.com.vn
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Ph?ng vi?n b?o Tu?i Tr? mu?n b?n th?m v? H?i th?o
FOSS t?i Tp.HCM
----- Original Message -----
Ch?o ch? Nhung,
ngu?n m? v? c?c v?n ?? c?a c?ng ??ng (??c bi?t l?i l? b?o Tu?i Tr?,
t? b?o h?ng ng?y c?a t?i)
T?i, anh Ngh?a v? c?ng ??ng FOSS n?i chung s?n s?ng trao ??i, ??i
tho?i c?i m? v?i qu? b?o c?ng nh? c?c c? quan h?u quan kh?c.
S?ng mai t?i s? l?n ???ng tham d? FUDCon Milan 2011 [1] (c?ng l? m?t
trong nh?ng s? ki?n l?n nh?t c?a c?ng ??ng FOSS tr?n th? gi?i).
T?i r?t vui ???c ti?p t?c trao ??i v?i ch? qua email; c?n n?u c?n
g?p tr?c ti?p, xin ph?p h?n g?p ch? sau bu?i th? 4 tu?n t?i, khi ??
tr? v? Vi?t Nam.
@b?c Th?nh: c?m ?n b?c ?? k?t n?i! :)
[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Milan_2011
Kind regards,
Tuan
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From: "Hong Nhung" <hongnhung at tuoitre.com.vn>
To: "'Truong Anh. Tuan'" <tuanta at iwayvietnam.com>, "'Hanoi Linux Users
Group'" <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:37:40 +0700
Subject: RE: [HanoiLUG] Ph?ng vi?n b?o Tu?i Tr? mu?n b?n th?m v? H?i th?o
FOSS t?i Tp.HCM
Ch?o c?c anh trong c?ng ??ng ngu?n m?,
Em r?t c?m ?n c?c anh nhi?t t?nh c?ng t?c v? gi?p ?? em. Em xin v?o v?n ??
lu?n. Nh?n s? ki?n h?i th?o "th?c ??y ?ng d?ng v? ph?t tri?n ph?n m?m m?
ngu?n m?" do B? TTTT t? ch?c ng?y 22/9 t?i TP.HCM v?a qua, em l?m chuy?n ??
v? ph?n m?m t? do ngu?n m? cho b?o Tu?i Tr? cu?i tu?n. Chuy?n ?? c?a em s?
g?m b?i t?ng quan v? t?nh h?nh ?ng d?ng ph?n m?m t? do ngu?n m? t?i VI?t
Nam, b?i vi?t v? c?ng ??ng Vi?t Nam v? nh?ng n? l?c c?a c?ng ??ng v? m?t b?i
ph?ng v?n c? quan ch?c n?ng, c?c ? ki?n c?a chuy?n gia. Em xin n?u m?t s? ?
nh? c?c anh l?m r? gi?p em, trong qu? tr?nh trao ??i em xin ???c h?i th?m ?.
C?m nh?n c?a em ??i v?i h?i th?o v?a r?i l? n?i dung c?n h?i m? h?, v?n ch?
l? nh?ng v?n ?? ?? n?u trong c?c h?i th?o c?ch ??y v?i n?m v? m? ngu?n m? ?
VN ?ang r?t ?o u?t. Em c?m gi?c nh? c?c nh? ho?ch ??nh ch?nh s?ch CNTT kh?ng
m?n m? v?i ph?n m?m ngu?n m?, n?u kh?ng mu?n n?i l? h? anti ph?n m?m ngu?n
m?. Tuy v?y, b?o c?o c?a ph?a B? TTTT l?i cho ng??i ??c c?m gi?c r?ng ch?ng
ta ?? ??t ???c r?t nhi?u k?t qu? t?t v? r?t t?ch c?c ?ng d?ng ph?n m?m ngu?n
m? ? c?c c? quan nh? n??c, ??a ph??ng... Em kh?ng bi?t suy ngh? n?y c?a m?nh
c? sai kh?ng v? nh? c?c anh gi?p em c? c?i nh?n to?n c?nh v? t?nh h?nh ?ng
d?ng, ph?t tri?n m? ngu?n m? t?i VN, ??c bi?t ? g?c ?? ?ng d?ng trong th?c
t?, ph?n m?m ngu?n m? ?ang ph?t tri?n m?nh ? ph?n kh?c n?o?
Theo c?c anh th? c?ch tri?n khai c?a ch?ng ta (??c bi?t l? B? TTTT) hi?n nay
?? th?c ??y ph?n m?m ngu?n m? ph?t tri?n c? ?i ??ng ???ng kh?ng? Trong ch?nh
s?ch, ch?ng ta ?? l?m ???c g? v? c?n ph?i l?m g? ?? PMNM ph?t tri?n m?nh
h?n?
Ch?ng ta ?? c? h?n 10 n?m tri?n khai ?ng d?ng PMNM nh?ng v?i nh?ng g? ??t
???c h?m nay, ph?i ch?ng ch?ng ta ?? b? l? nhi?u c? h?i v? kho?ng c?ch c?a
ta v?i c?ng ??ng ngu?n m? th? gi?i ng?y c?ng xa?
C? ? ki?n cho r?ng ch?ng ta c?n m?t c? quan cao h?n c?p b? ?i?u ph?i vi?c
th?c ??y ph?t tri?n ph?n m?m ngu?n m? ?? tr?nh s? gi?m ch?n nhau c?a hai b?
KHCN v? TTTT v? s? d? c? s? gi?m ch?n n?y l? h?u qu? l?ch s? khi th?nh l?p
b? TTTT.
V?n ?? ph?t tri?n ph?n m?m ngu?n m? ? VN hi?n nay ?ang loay hoay trong b?i
to?n con g? v? qu? tr?ng: Tr??ng kh?ng ??o t?o n?n kh?ng c? nh?n l?c,kh?ng
c? nh?n l?c th? kh?ng c? s?n ph?m, kh?ng c? s?n ph?m th? kh?ng c? th?
tr??ng, kh?ng c? th? tr??ng th? doanh nghi?p kh?ng l?m, v? kh?ng c?n nh?n
l?c. V?n ?? n?y c? ??ng kh?ng? Xin c?c anh cho em ? ki?n v? gi?i ph?p kh?c
ph?c?
C?c anh c? th? gi?p em th?ng tin v? c?ng ??ng ? VN, nh?ng k?t qu? c?ng ??ng
?? l?m ???c?
Hi?n nay, t?m l? ng??i d?ng v? c? ng??i qu?n l? ??u cho r?ng, PMNM kh? d?ng,
PMNM l? s?n ph?m c?a nhi?u ng??i n?n t?nh b?o m?t kh?ng cao, s?n ph?m kh?ng
ho?n thi?n... n?n ng??i ta b?i x?ch ngu?n m?. L?m sao ?? m?i ng??i c? nh?n
th?c ??ng? C? ? ki?n cho r?ng, ??i v?i ng??i d?ng cu?i, h?y ??ng cho h? bi?t
h? ?ang d?ng m? ngu?n m? hay ??ng khi ??a h? s? d?ng. ? ki?n n?y ??ng kh?ng?
C? ? ki?n n?i r?ng Vi?t Nam ch?a c? ho?t ??ng ??ng g?p cho c?ng ??ng ph?n
m?m ngu?n m? th? gi?i? ? ki?n n?y ??ng hay sai?
H?ng Nhung
-----Original Message-----
From: Truong Anh. Tuan [mailto:tuanta at iwayvietnam.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:40 PM
To: Hanoi Linux Users Group
Cc: hongnhung at tuoitre.com.vn
Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] Ph?ng vi?n b?o Tu?i Tr? mu?n b?n th?m v? H?i th?o
FOSS t?i Tp.HCM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nguy?n H?u Th?nh" <huuthanh.ng at gmail.com>
To: hongnhung at tuoitre.com.vn
Cc: "Hanoi Linux Users Group" <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:53:10 PM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Ph?ng vi?n b?o Tu?i Tr? mu?n b?n th?m v? H?i th?o FOSS
t?i Tp.HCMTo: hongnhung at tuoitre.com.vn
Cc: "Hanoi Linux Users Group" <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:53:10 PM
Subject: [HanoiLUG] Ph?ng vi?n b?o Tu?i Tr? mu?n b?n th?m v? H?i th?o FOSS
Ch?o ch? Nhung,
Qua gi?i thi?u c?a b?n b?o c? H?ng Nhung b?o Tu?i Tr? g?i ?i?n cho
t?i, mu?n trao ??i th?m quanh nh?ng v?n ?? ?? ?? c?p t?i H?i th?o
FOSS v?a r?i t?i Tp.HCM v?i c?ng ??ng ngu?n m? m? c?c anh LT.Ngh?a
v? TrA.Tu?n ???c n?u ??ch danh.
Xin gi?i thi?u v?i c?ng ??ng, v? m?i c? H?ng Nhung b?t ??u.
R?t vui v? b?o ch? x? h?i ng?y c?ng quan t?m ??n ph?n m?m t? dot?i, mu?n trao ??i th?m quanh nh?ng v?n ?? ?? ?? c?p t?i H?i th?o
FOSS v?a r?i t?i Tp.HCM v?i c?ng ??ng ngu?n m? m? c?c anh LT.Ngh?a
v? TrA.Tu?n ???c n?u ??ch danh.
Xin gi?i thi?u v?i c?ng ??ng, v? m?i c? H?ng Nhung b?t ??u.
ngu?n m? v? c?c v?n ?? c?a c?ng ??ng (??c bi?t l?i l? b?o Tu?i Tr?,
t? b?o h?ng ng?y c?a t?i)
T?i, anh Ngh?a v? c?ng ??ng FOSS n?i chung s?n s?ng trao ??i, ??i
tho?i c?i m? v?i qu? b?o c?ng nh? c?c c? quan h?u quan kh?c.
S?ng mai t?i s? l?n ???ng tham d? FUDCon Milan 2011 [1] (c?ng l? m?t
trong nh?ng s? ki?n l?n nh?t c?a c?ng ??ng FOSS tr?n th? gi?i).
T?i r?t vui ???c ti?p t?c trao ??i v?i ch? qua email; c?n n?u c?n
g?p tr?c ti?p, xin ph?p h?n g?p ch? sau bu?i th? 4 tu?n t?i, khi ??
tr? v? Vi?t Nam.
@b?c Th?nh: c?m ?n b?c ?? k?t n?i! :)
[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Milan_2011
Kind regards,
Tuan
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